Por 15 vs eastwood rust converter the stovebolt forums. Our 2 piece rust encapsulator kit has been reformulated with twice the. A except where prohibited by law, 3m will not be liable for any loss or damage arising from the 3m product, whether direct, indirect, special, incidental or consequential, regardless of the legal theory. Formulated for easy cleanup and thinning of por15 paint.
I have not used either of these products, but i will be before long. Your order may be eligible for ship to home, and shipping is free on. Eastwood rust converter must be applied over heavy rust. Eastwood rust encapsulator is ideal for parts on project cars that have started to rust, but would be very difficult to replace or fabricate. My rust plan feedback needed page 2 toyota 4runner. Por15 is a rustpreventive paint designed for application directly on rusted or seasoned metal surfaces. Find a local store or dealer for por15 rust preventive products. Weve learned a lot about restoration projects over our decades of experience helping the diy community fix up their fixeruppers. Por15 is a rustpreventive paint designed for application directly on rusted or seasoned metal. Oct 23, 2014 as to the fiberglass or what to use to patch it i bought a trunk kit from eastwood full of por 15 products. Por15 is different than the rustconversion type of products, as there is no conversion involved, it does not work by converting iron oxide into brittle iron phosphate, its bond to the surface is. For a list of authorized dealers online click online stores.
Rust, undercoating, and rustproofing repair guide autozone. Twice the corrosion resistance as the original rust encapsulator formula. Rust converter stops residual rust, and turns it into a black, protective, readytopaint coating, without sanding. Por 15 cant stop rust if it isnt in direct contact with the base metal. Wire brush, degrease, then use a rust encapsulator like por 15 or eastwood. Frame paintingcoating por15 or eastwood or both well after selling my 74 fj40 last october it didnt take long until i couldnt stand it and got another one 77 fj40. Find great deals on ebay for rust encapsulator and rust converter. If you spend an hour googling rust converters, you will find a half dozen research reports that shoot holes in the claims made by rust converter companies. Yes, but you will lose the important benefits of por 15. It works on ferrous metals iron and steel from the inside out due to exposure of unprotected surfaces to air and moisture. To apply rust converter, pour some into a small container.
For ultimate rust protection, we recommend topcoating rust converter with eastwood rust encapsulator. Always on the lookout for a new, top quality product with the right chemical properties to stop rust from returning, etek restorations gave eastwoods rust converting and rust encapsulating products an. Sep 09, 2010 metal prep from ppg is way better then ospho and comes in a quart size,ppg dp sealer is big bucks if you are on a budget,house of kolors epoxy 2 part primer is a good deal,comes in 2 gallon kit,part a and b, and is a great price,not to mention its thick as hell,you can hose the stuff on and bury anything with it,oh just keep in mind part a is yellow,part b is blue,,it makes lime green when. Tool dude tony shows you how to permanently stop rust using the threestep process and chemicals from por 15. Once i cut out the rusted area, i should have better access to coat the surrounding areas with a rust converter.
Por 15 is a good product but eastwoods rust converter adheres to bare metal, painted metal, converts rust and acts like a primer for a top coat. There are a few other similar products to fluid film such as eastwood hd anti rust, rust check rust inhibitor or coat and protect, or krown t40 rust inhibitor, but they may collect grime and dirt just as much. Por 15 is a rust preventive paint designed for application directly on rusted or seasoned metal surfaces. Seems to work as advertised, but i will not know until spring if it actually did neutralize the rust in the new areas i. Eastwood rust encapsulator eastwood rust encapsulator has been tested by an independent lab to be the most effective rust preventive product yet.
I would probably recommend the 2 part filler for the holes in your picture. Por15 does not adhere well to smooth, shiny surfaces, but will adhere well to those surfaces with the proper. For the absolute ultimate rust remedy, first brush or sprayon eastwood rust converter, then prime with rust encapsulator. The possibility of rust exists practically nationwideanywhere humidity, industrial pollution or chemical salts are present, rust can form. Tested against wellknown brands, the eastwood rust encapsulator has proven to be superior in sunlight resistance, preventing rust creep, and overall durability. Eastwood platinum paintover rust encapsulator coating. Rust converter takes another approach, as this hightech formula penetrates rust and turns it into a polymer coating that is ready to be covered with a quality chassis black top coat. I have heard of the por 15 for some time, but i have not heard anything about the eastwood rust converter product. Eastwood rust converter and rust encapsulator etek. Eastwoods brushon seam sealer leaves a factorylike finish and will not crack, harden or sag. Always on the lookout for a new, top quality product with the right chemical properties to stop rust from returning, etek restorations gave eastwood s rust converting and rust encapsulating products an honest trial on some very rusty and pitted boxside sections. Eastwoods own hightech formula converts rust into a protective polymeric coating thats ready to go as a primer, and is compatible with most top coats. With this endeavor, rust bullet has left competitors like por 15 far behind in the quest for rust prevention.
But those repairs arent usually as frequent as wed like. As long as loose or flaking rust are removed from the surface, an application of por15 will not only cover up the rust and prevent it from spreading, but will also strengthen the underlying metal and seal holes by forming its own membranes. It dries to a rockhard, nonporous finish that wont chip, crack, or peel, and it prevents rust from re. I remember one of the first times i used rust bullet, i snagged my gloves a couple times and got more on me than i realized. Rust encapsulator platinum is ideal for any type of rusted metal surface and can. Easy online ordering for the ones who get it done along with 247 customer service.
For the best protection, we suggest applying rust encapsulator over the converter and then applying the top coat. If ms is anything like rust bullet, nothing will remove it except. Its a rust remover that leaves a zinc phosphate coating on. In the kit you have por 15, metal prep, degreaser, fiberglass, and a 2 part filler for smaller holes.
Crc rust converter neutralises rust and converts it to a tough black primer. Most seem to be made with phosphoric and or tannic acid. Ive tried all of eastwood s rust encapsilator products and nothing beats actually removing the rust. Seasoned metal and sandblasted metal are also good.
Simply spray it onto springs, frames, panels and other parts. You will only see it convert rust in the areas where rust is present. I have limited knowledge about painting over rusted metal and have tried rust reformers with varying results. I have patches of surface rust and some clean metal areas. Oxisolve from eastwood will have the rust gone in very short time and leave the surface ready for paint with only a scuff. Ultimate paint and body guide part 4 the war against rust. Automotive rust treatment solutions eastwood company. Eastwood sells a rust converter for internal frames that has a nozzle which. Mustangs monthly did a comparison test between the two a few years ago and the eastwood product held up better in rust prevention tests in a saltspray environment.
Im ok with the fact it needs to be reaplied if it does its job well, but im not too excited about the reports of it collecting dirt. Frame paintingcoating por15 or eastood or both ih8mud. This 77 has been sitting for quite a while but all in all not in too bad of shape however after learning from the past my. Rust repair and and corrosion prevention are necessary steps to restore a classic vehicle. All patch work and panel replacement is done after i feel the entire vehicle is stable. If ms is anything like rust bullet, nothing will remove it except extreme abrasion and heat. On properly prepared surfaces that are free of oil and grease, this product seals and stops rust and corrosion from spreading. Rust bullet is proud to inform its customers that its products have been awarded unprecedented two patents for its superior technology and environmental friendly rust preventive products. You will only see it convert rust in the areas where rust is. Perfect for rusty frames, floor pans, battery trays and other heavily rusted areas.
Enter your postal code and country to list dealers in your area. Tested against wellknown brands, the eastwood rust. This can be achieved through mechanical abrasive blasting, wire wheel, sanding, etc. Metal prep from ppg is way better then ospho and comes in a quart size,ppg dp sealer is big bucks if you are on a budget,house of kolors epoxy 2 part primer is a good deal,comes in 2 gallon. As to the fiberglass or what to use to patch it i bought a trunk kit from eastwood full of por 15 products. Thats for medium to heavyflaky rust and areas that are dont have. Get the best deals on automotive rust prevention when you shop the largest. The surface should be clean and dry before application of rust converter. Crc rust converter is a unique fast drying coating formulated for treatment of lightly rusted or correctly prepared metal surfaces. Stop rust in its tracks, then seal cracks, crevices and body seams with this rust encapsulator and seam sealer kit first the rust encapsulator seals and stops rust and corrosion from spreading.
Buy eastwood 12515z internal frame coating rust prevention with spray nozzle, green, pack of 1. Por 15 is sensitive to uv light sun and must be topcoated before. Rust encapsulator platinum is a highperformance, moisturecured coating that. Por 15 is fully compatible with fiberglass and can be used to repair cracks in gelcoat. A except where prohibited by law, 3m will not be liable for any loss or damage arising from the 3m product, whether direct, indirect, special, incidental or consequential, regardless of the legal theory asserted, including warranty, contract, negligence or strict liability. Seems to work as advertised, but i will not know until spring if it actually did neutralize the rust in the new areas i spraayed it on. It dries to a rockhard, nonporous finish that wont chip, crack, or peel, and it prevents rust from reoccurring by protecting metal from further exposure to moisture. We get surprised by new patches on exteriors, and go on hunts underneath to check our frames and.
Nov 11, 2012 rust repair and and corrosion prevention are necessary steps to restore a classic vehicle. Rust converter does also come in two other formulas, a sprayable for airless and compression sprayers and an aerosol. Ultimate paint and body guide part 4 the war against rust part 4 of hot rod s ultimate paint and body guide begins with the war on rust. Aug 09, 2006 ultimate paint and body guide part 4 the war against rust part 4 of hot rod s ultimate paint and body guide begins with the war on rust. Eastwood 12515z internal frame coating rust prevention with. Por 15 is the original highperformance finish to permanently halt rust. The surface also needs to be top coated after it is cured. Rust bullet is proud to inform its customers that its products have been awarded unprecedented two patents for its superior technology and. Reviews rust encapsulator rust prevention by eastwood co. This product chemically converts rust to a paintable, inert surface that must be topcoated.
Nov 15, 2006 as far as the best rust treatment paint, ive used por 15 with good success but it is a bit tricker to work with than the eastwood rust encapsulator. Rust encapsulator paint showdown one year challenge. This high tech formula halts residual rust in its track and converts it into a black protective polymeric coating, eliminating the need for sanding. Por 15 does not adhere well to smooth, shiny surfaces, but will adhere well to those surfaces with the proper preparation. As far as the best rusttreatment paint, ive used por15 with good success but it is a bit tricker to work with than the eastwood rust encapsulator. Rust seems to like to creep into a curved area or into a body line that takes more care to repair. If you spend an hour googling rust converters, you will find a half dozen research. Rust protection done right eastwood auto body repair tools. Frame paintingcoating por15 or eastood or both ih8mud forum. You must remember that ordinary paints are weakened by exposure to moisture. This would be scaly rust that has begun pitting the surface and has covered all of the metal. The eastwood one quart rust converter is an incredible rust converter paint that is ideal for rust converting coat jobs.
Rust repair panel how to patch panel kit repairing project pilehouse. In the kit you have por 15, metal prep, degreaser, fiberglass, and a 2 part filler for. Rust converter needs 100 percent rust present in order for it to work correctly and to fully cure. I believe eastwood recommends using the rust converter several coats followed by encapsulator for best performance. Eastwoods renowned rust converter paint is now available in a convenient aerosol package. Rust converter isnt the right choice for this application.
There are a few other similar products to fluid film such as eastwood hd anti rust, rust check rust inhibitor or coat and protect, or krown t40 rust inhibitor, but they may collect grime and. If there is no rust present, there will be nothing for the product to react with and adhere to. Eastwood black rust encapsulator quart and aerosol kit. Painting epoxy over rust converter mig welding forum. We still suggest knocking off the loose, flaking rust using a wire brush or wheel before applying the product.
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